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Design Notes

Choosing A Design Professional

The advantage of using a Design/Remodel/Build Company is that all the processes and work are centralized. Cost savings can also be realized by keeping all of the services under one roof.

Architects on the other hand, have a place in our industry. Yet one major drawback when using an architect is that they tend to be distanced from projects and cannot respond rapidly to challenges and changes to the project. This frequently slows down the progress of the work.

Design/Remodel/Build Companies also have an inherent advantage in knowing real-time costs. Our experience with some architects is that that tend to over-design and under-estimate the cost of projects.

We Recommend

We love books! Especially about design, remodeling and our homes. We own several coffee table sized books that we leaf through looking for ideas and inspiration. One of them, I would like to feature here is part of the not so big house series written by Sarah Susanka. NotSoBigHouse.com

Not So Big Remodeling, published in 2008 shows the way to remodeling your existing home without super sizing. Some of the ideas and features are from her earlier books which can help you visualize how your home can be. This book is timely in that many homeowners (we're one of them!) are realizing that it makes good economic sense to stay put and adapt their homes to fit their lifestyle.  

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Sunday
07Feb2010

How A "Great Price" Became a Nightmare...

Tempted to go with the lowest price? Don’t be.

 

You requested three prices for a kitchen remodel and you have received quotes for $15,000.00,   $27,000 and $31,000.00.  You get to thinking “Wow! I can get a new kitchen for $15,000.00 and the other guys are ripping me off.”    Well, consider what happened to someone who has become a good friend of mine.

 

Joe* needed a new kitchen as well as some other interior work done on his home. So he asked  3 contractors to look at the project. One of the contractors was the father of one of his son’s friends and had often chatted with him at their son’s sporting events. As it turns out, this fellow had the lowest price and Joe had talked to a couple of other folks who had used him and they said “Oh yeah, he’s pretty good to work with” So Joe decides to go with his friend whom we’ll call the “low-price guy”

 

Joe meets with the low-price guy about plans for permitting  He and this low-price guy hash out what Joe wants to do.  Low-price guy says “No problem, I’ve got a buddy of mine who will hand draw the plans cheap.” A few weeks go by and Joe calls the low-price guy inquiring about the progress of the plans. “No problem,” the low-price guy tells Joe, “He is almost done.”

 2 more weeks go by and Joe again calls. “Give me another week!” The low-price guy promises that he would have something for Joe.  Finally, about six weeks after he had given the low-price guy the go ahead, Joe was going to see what his newly remodeled home was going to look like.  Joe and his wife are sitting at the kitchen table as the hand drawn plans are rolled out, and as the low-price guy starts to go into details, Joe holds up his hand and say’s “Wait a minute, this doesn't look like anything you and I talked about.”

 

To make a long story short, the low-price guy had told the draftsman what HE thought Joe wanted. And to top it off, the low-price guy told Joe, “Oh, well I’ll need more money to pay for the revised drawings”

The project started late and was delayed by the infrequent comings and goings of the low-price guy’s crew and, as Joe told me, he was willing to put up with this as it was still a good deal so far. But it was starting to wear on him and his family.

 At a meeting for the granite counter template, the low-price guy and his carpenter were arguing about who should go for coffee while the template technician was asking questions about the countertop.  Fast forward to AFTER the installation of the granite countertop:  Only  then was it discovered that no one had bothered to tell the template tech that there was to be a downdraft unit behind the range. As a result, the granite needed to be RE- CUT to accommodate this unit. The low-price guy told Joe, “No problem, the fabricator can cut it in place”

 

When Joe called the fabricator to ask him when he was coming back to re-cut the granite, the fabricator chuckled and said “Sure, we can cut it out if you don’t mind us making a big mess with water and dust.”

 

As it turns out, they had to remove the top to take back to the shop to be cut and in the process the slab broke.  The low-price guy tried to get the granite fabricator to glue the piece back together and not tell Joe, who subsequently found out about it. Joe then told the low-price guy that he needed to own up to his mistake and have the slab replaced at his (the low-price guy’s) expense.

 

About two thirds of the way though the project, Joe decided to relocate to a rental home he owned so that he and his family would no longer be living in a messy construction zone.

The low-price guy told him “Great!  We’ll be done in two weeks!”  Can you guess what happened next? 2-1/2 MONTHS later Joe and his family finally moved back in. To add insult to injury, the low-price guy presented Joe with a bill for $23,000, (Yes, $23,000 dollars!) for the items not in the original contract.

 

I asked Joe, “Well, why did you pick this guy?” He sheepishly hung his head and said “He had such a great price and I thought because he was a friend of the family he would treat me right” 

I Then asked him, “Would you have been better off with any of the other contractors you asked to quote on your project?”     “Absolutely,” he responded.  “One of the other contractors gave me a more detailed and complete quote. His price was not far off from what I ultimately ended up paying and his references were impeccable.” I just wish I had resisted the siren call of a lower price. “Believe me,” he said, “my wife reminds me all the time!”

It would be beneficial to consider what Joe went through. In trying to save money, he ended up paying a lot more then he planned, and on top of it, he and his family endured significant stress and emotional turmoil as the project dragged on and on.

 While it is tempting, and more so in our current economy, to go with the low-priced guy, inevitably, you will end up paying more: Either for the project or in the toll of stress/mental anguish or both.   Don’t Be Tempted!

*Not his real name. 

 

Reader Comments (2)

FYI

"“We thought we did everything right when we bought a house with a 30-year loan and a low fixed rate,” Broke said. “There was a small room addition built at the back of the house that was disclosed to us, as built to code, but not permitted. The house had been painted and decorated and looked great. We had the house inspected, everything checked out and we did everything required to purchase the house.”

Note the “not permitted” aspect — this is where it all went wrong.

“Four years later our house literally started to cave in. The sliding door in the back of the house completely froze up and the front door was suddenly very difficult to open. A big crack started developing across the ceiling under the center of the house, and cement roof tiles starting falling off the edge of the house.

“We notified our homeowners insurance company and they sent a structural engineer to assess the house. The can of worms was just opening, as it was then discovered there were cut and modified trusses under the apex of the roof. The original composite roof shingles, weighing less than one ton, had been replaced with cement roofing tiles, weighing nine tons, and all that weight slowly began to cause the structure to cave in. To make matters worse, unsafe electrical work was discovered in the attic as well as plumbing work, and gas lines had been tampered with.

"Ultimately, our insurance claim was denied due to construction defect, meaning the cost of this nightmare was now squarely on us..."

“A check with Santa Clarita Building and Safety revealed none of the work had been inspected or permitted,” he said. “Our choices at this point (keep in mind we could not sell the house in this condition) were two. For one, we could walk away, filing bankruptcy and destroying our credit. We are both in our mid-50s and bankruptcy would destroy our hard earned FICO scores of over 720. The other option was to refinance the house and begin repairs at an approximate cost of $100,000.”

“After consulting with a local attorney, and assured that we had a solid case, we filed suit to try and recover our cost of rebuilding and permitting our broken home.

"To make a four-year-long story short, we have spent thousands of dollars, are in debt for hundreds of thousands of dollars and recently lost the lawsuit in arbitration,” he said. “This little can of worms has financially devastated us, ruining any chance of ever retiring or paying off our house.”

Summing up, the Brokes not only had to pay the cost of rebuilding, but also the attorney fees for both sides of their case. The previous owner got off scott-free, as did his contractors, who had gone, conveniently, out of business. All of this, added to their original debt in purchasing the home, put the Brokes about a half-million in the hole..."

- ICC - Learn the Importance of Getting Permit Inspections (http://media.iccsafe.org/news/eNews/111208/inspections.html)

February 12, 2010 | Registered CommenterJohn Clark

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